MapInfo Pro

Hi!

 This link show video about usecase: user try to split one vector layer with together.

MapInfo is 17.0.4.

https://ruumab-my.sharepoint.com/:v:/g/personal/mati_tee_ruumab_ee/EYpMvBBdrKNEnIYsOSIPO5cBSoyz0i2unsJYXWNaxqSd4A?e=hSX1Bw

 here are data

https://ruumab-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/mati_tee_ruumab_ee/EWLY7iewrl5OsJzWuuvyhrIB5x9ohv9I41LRe56oZ8RIXA?e=D25gA0 

I to repeat this on two computers:

1. Windows 7, 64-bit desktop (2011) and
2. Laptop (Dell, i7, 16 GB RAM, W10).

I began this more than 4 hours ago. Not yet finished.

In W7 comp it show me "creating objects" message with blue bar appr "near the 100%".

In W10 laptop it's still "not responding" and without any progressbar.

Users, who performed this kind operations for tens and tens years say, that old ver 12 and other 32-bit ones do this operations  within counted minutes.

They try with old version TABs and extended TAB, no difference.

What to do?

This is real blocker.

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Mati Tee
Ruumab OÛ
Tartu
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Hi Mati,

I have a laptop very similar to the specs you've listed. Using your data & MapInfo Pro v17.0.3 I was able to complete the operation in around 4 hours (I didn't note exact start/finish times) and returned the split table. It's worth noting that each table has a total node count > 1,000,000 so the objects you are processing are reasonably complex from a spatial perspective.

If you continue to experience the problem, please respond here and the team can open a Support Case to investigate the specific circumstances of the behaviour you have encountered.

Thanks, Ashley

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Ashley Crane
Regional Director, Software Support
Pitney Bowes
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------Original Message------

Hi Mati,

I have a laptop very similar to the specs you've listed. Using your data & MapInfo Pro v17.0.3 I was able to complete the operation in around 4 hours (I didn't note exact start/finish times) and returned the split table. It's worth noting that each table has a total node count > 1,000,000 so the objects you are processing are reasonably complex from a spatial perspective.

If you continue to experience the problem, please respond here and the team can open a Support Case to investigate the specific circumstances of the behaviour you have encountered.

Thanks, Ashley

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Ashley Crane
Regional Director, Software Support
Pitney Bowes
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update.

Something is wrong. I change PRO>Options>system<performance->concurency level from FULL to NONE.

Task manager shows that processor usage is down to 25% (from 80+% with "full"). But, the splitting with the same data was done with less than 1 hour.

It seems that multicore processor usage is not working properly.

Now I test with ver 2019 alpha. Seems to be the same issue.

Can engineering fix this bug for the ver 2019 first release? This is real blocker for sales.

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Mati Tee
Ruumab OÛ
Tartu
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 01:11
From: Mati Tee
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

ArcGIS or QGIS in the same comp do this below 1 hour.

 

This issue come common in Estonian Public sector. And this is issue. They began turn to other softwares.

All 3 my main user organizations in Estonia began report slowness when they go to ver 17. I don't test it yet, but they say that ver 12.0 is more fast.

I resave data into new TAB format, remove all indexes. Not win in speed.  

May be geopackage? Something else?

 

Austusega

 

-Mati Tee-

mati@ruumab.ee

+37255686312

 

Original Message------

Hi Mati,

I have a laptop very similar to the specs you've listed. Using your data & MapInfo Pro v17.0.3 I was able to complete the operation in around 4 hours (I didn't note exact start/finish times) and returned the split table. It's worth noting that each table has a total node count > 1,000,000 so the objects you are processing are reasonably complex from a spatial perspective.

If you continue to experience the problem, please respond here and the team can open a Support Case to investigate the specific circumstances of the behaviour you have encountered.

Thanks, Ashley

------------------------------
Ashley Crane
Regional Director, Software Support
Pitney Bowes
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Hi Mati,

This seems like a bug, we will investigate it.

Regards,
Andrei

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Andrei Veselov
PITNEY BOWES SOFTWARE, INC
Troy NY
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 03:03
From: Mati Tee
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

update.

Something is wrong. I change PRO>Options>system<performance->concurency level from FULL to NONE.

Task manager shows that processor usage is down to 25% (from 80+% with "full"). But, the splitting with the same data was done with less than 1 hour.

It seems that multicore processor usage is not working properly.

Now I test with ver 2019 alpha. Seems to be the same issue.

Can engineering fix this bug for the ver 2019 first release? This is real blocker for sales.

------------------------------
Mati Tee
Ruumab OÛ
Tartu
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 01:11
From: Mati Tee
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

ArcGIS or QGIS in the same comp do this below 1 hour.

 

This issue come common in Estonian Public sector. And this is issue. They began turn to other softwares.

All 3 my main user organizations in Estonia began report slowness when they go to ver 17. I don't test it yet, but they say that ver 12.0 is more fast.

I resave data into new TAB format, remove all indexes. Not win in speed.  

May be geopackage? Something else?

 

Austusega

 

-Mati Tee-

mati@ruumab.ee

+37255686312

 

Original Message------

Hi Mati,

I have a laptop very similar to the specs you've listed. Using your data & MapInfo Pro v17.0.3 I was able to complete the operation in around 4 hours (I didn't note exact start/finish times) and returned the split table. It's worth noting that each table has a total node count > 1,000,000 so the objects you are processing are reasonably complex from a spatial perspective.

If you continue to experience the problem, please respond here and the team can open a Support Case to investigate the specific circumstances of the behaviour you have encountered.

Thanks, Ashley

------------------------------
Ashley Crane
Regional Director, Software Support
Pitney Bowes
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Then, check the spatial queries too.

The are overlap query between region layers has very slow performance.

 "Copy style" is very slow, too. 

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Mati Tee
Ruumab OÛ
Tartu
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 09:40
From: Andrei Veselov
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

Hi Mati,

This seems like a bug, we will investigate it.

Regards,
Andrei

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Andrei Veselov
PITNEY BOWES SOFTWARE, INC
Troy NY
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 03:03
From: Mati Tee
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

update.

Something is wrong. I change PRO>Options>system<performance->concurency level from FULL to NONE.

Task manager shows that processor usage is down to 25% (from 80+% with "full"). But, the splitting with the same data was done with less than 1 hour.

It seems that multicore processor usage is not working properly.

Now I test with ver 2019 alpha. Seems to be the same issue.

Can engineering fix this bug for the ver 2019 first release? This is real blocker for sales.

------------------------------
Mati Tee
Ruumab OÛ
Tartu


Original Message:
Sent: 10-18-2019 01:11
From: Mati Tee
Subject: Spatial operations very slow in MapInfo

ArcGIS or QGIS in the same comp do this below 1 hour.

 

This issue come common in Estonian Public sector. And this is issue. They began turn to other softwares.

All 3 my main user organizations in Estonia began report slowness when they go to ver 17. I don't test it yet, but they say that ver 12.0 is more fast.

I resave data into new TAB format, remove all indexes. Not win in speed.  

May be geopackage? Something else?

 

Austusega

 

-Mati Tee-

mati@ruumab.ee

+37255686312

 

Original Message------

Hi Mati,

I have a laptop very similar to the specs you've listed. Using your data & MapInfo Pro v17.0.3 I was able to complete the operation in around 4 hours (I didn't note exact start/finish times) and returned the split table. It's worth noting that each table has a total node count > 1,000,000 so the objects you are processing are reasonably complex from a spatial perspective.

If you continue to experience the problem, please respond here and the team can open a Support Case to investigate the specific circumstances of the behaviour you have encountered.

Thanks, Ashley

------------------------------
Ashley Crane
Regional Director, Software Support
Pitney Bowes
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